Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast

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What we talk about when we talk about art. Exceptional makers and thinkers across art, literature, film, fashion, music, and more come together to talk about what it means to make things today.

Recent Episodes
  • Julianne Moore
    Apr 16, 2025 – 34:09
  • Annabelle Selldorf
    Apr 9, 2025 – 31:19
  • Re-release: The Legacy of Ruth Asawa
    Apr 2, 2025 – 46:48
  • Candy Darling, More Than a Warhol Superstar
    Mar 26, 2025 – 26:06
  • The Untold Story of Black Mountain College
    Mar 19, 2025 – 26:28
  • Anni Albers: Her Life, Her Work, Her Words
    Mar 11, 2025 – 48:12
  • From DAS MINSK: The Sound of Noah Davis
    Mar 5, 2025 – 39:20
  • The Art of Rivalry with Wesley Morris
    Feb 26, 2025 – 44:31
  • The Unconstitutional War on Trans People
    Feb 19, 2025 – 37:58
  • The Best Art Exhibitions of The Century (So Far) | with Steve Locke
    Dec 18, 2024 – 40:49
  • Has Contemporary Art Lost Its Edge? | With Dean Kissick
    Dec 4, 2024 – 46:42
  • Special Episode | On Richard Serra with Hal Foster
    Nov 21, 2024 – 56:57
  • Re-release | Luc Tuymans and Timothy Snyder
    Nov 15, 2024 – 46:19
  • The Problem of Taste: On the Late, Great Dave Hickey with Jarrett Earnest
    Oct 16, 2024 – 30:51
  • Special Episode | Alice Neel in the Queer World with Hilton Als
    Sep 25, 2024 – 35:35
  • Luca Guadagnino and Michaël Borremans (Re-run from Season 7)
    Jun 4, 2024 – 46:30
  • Episode 67 | Grace Wales Bonner and Horace Ballard
    Apr 23, 2024 – 34:12
  • Episode 66 | R. Crumb’s Radio Music Hour
    Mar 27, 2024 – 44:26
  • Episode 65 | John McCracken and Minimalism Now with Cauleen Smith and Michael Govan
    Mar 20, 2024 – 41:11
  • Episode 64 | On Hilma af Klint with Julia Voss and Briony Fer
    Mar 6, 2024 – 45:48
  • Episode 63 | Claire Messud and James Wood
    Feb 28, 2024 – 38:40
  • Episode 62 | Hua Hsu
    Feb 21, 2024 – 33:29
  • Episode 61 | Hank Willis Thomas and Rujeko Hockley
    Feb 14, 2024 – 29:43
  • Episode 60 | On Vermeer
    Feb 7, 2024 – 36:10
  • Episode 59 | Ira Sachs
    Jan 31, 2024 – 27:47
  • Episode 58 | Laurie Simmons and Carroll Dunham
    Jan 24, 2024 – 41:01
  • Episode 57 | George Clinton and Lauren Halsey
    Jan 17, 2024 – 29:13
  • The Best Art of 2023
    Dec 13, 2023 – 24:25
  • Manet's 'Olympia' Comes to New York
    Nov 22, 2023 – 26:17
  • Criticism for Difficult Times | With Helen Molesworth
    Nov 8, 2023 – 24:45
  • The Legacy of Ruth Asawa | Special Episode
    Sep 27, 2023 – 46:29
  • Njideka Akunyili Crosby and Helen Molesworth | Special Episode
    Sep 13, 2023 – 40:48
  • The Yayoi Kusama Phenomenon (Re-run from Season 2)
    May 10, 2023 – 23:12
  • Benjamin H.D. Buchloh and Helen Molesworth on Gerhard Richter | Special Episode
    Apr 24, 2023 – 01:06:25
  • How Picasso Was Sold to America | Special Episode
    Apr 12, 2023 – 39:29
  • Episode 56 | Barbara Smith and Meg Onli
    Mar 22, 2023 – 01:02:51
  • Episode 55 | Nicholson Baker
    Mar 15, 2023 – 49:34
  • Rirkrit Tiravanija and Elizabeth Peyton (Re-run from Season 6)
    Mar 8, 2023 – 46:41
  • Episode 54 | Jonathan Anderson
    Mar 1, 2023 – 43:16
  • Episode 53 | Cecilia Alemani
    Feb 22, 2023 – 45:45
  • Episode 52 | Sarah Schulman
    Feb 15, 2023 – 44:12
  • Episode 51 | Jon Gray (Ghetto Gastro)
    Feb 8, 2023 – 30:35
  • Episode 50 | Why You Do What You Do with Brendan Dugan, Johanna Fateman and Ebony L. Haynes
    Feb 1, 2023 – 42:34
  • Episode 49 | Luca Guadagnino and Michaël Borremans
    Jan 25, 2023 – 45:55
  • Best of 2022 | With Helen Molesworth
    Dec 14, 2022 – 51:52
  • What Does Art Have to Do with Climate Change? | With Helen Molesworth
    Dec 7, 2022 – 35:45
  • On Art and Poetics
    Nov 30, 2022 – 41:39
  • Let’s Talk About Appropriation | With Helen Molesworth
    Nov 16, 2022 – 37:21
  • Seeing the 90’s Everywhere Right Now | With Helen Molesworth
    Nov 2, 2022 – 20:15
  • Inside ‘The Red Studio’: Ann Temkin with 6 Artists on Matisse | Special Episode
    Oct 25, 2022 – 01:12:09
Recent Reviews
  • manayunk wall
    Dull boring monotonous
    OMG this has to be the MOST boring podcast I have ever heard! And I listen to NPR 10 hrs a day! Speciflcally "How Picasso was sold to America" episode. -Pierre Bourdieu on taste you don't say, how thrilling!! Snore! It's like a throwback to the days when shows would interview amazing guest such as AFL-CIO chairman George Meany discussing collective bargaining agreements (and weither or not there is a labor crisis...depending on what you mean by crisis).
  • circartian
    circartian
    on episode dedicated to Anni Albers legacy - nice woven connection between legacy of an artist in correspondence to dynamics related to emerging innovations in the art world
  • jacksonp92
    Yes!!!
    The recent episode with Wesley Morris gave me chills! You two got to the core of things toward the end. Folks like Helen and Wesley provide an example for how important conversation SHOULD be shared in this day and age. Bless you guys ❤️
  • sabana24
    Awesome but inconsistent
    Love this show and always look forward to Helen’s diverse topics. Only wish they kept to a more regular schedule, the episodes come out very erratically
  • fraudpatrol
    Cast adrift
    Thank you for having the conversation about the fact that contemporary art has lost its edge. As someone who doesn’t make art about my identity with all the current work getting lots of attention that is, it’s very disheartening and tragic how isolated one can feel. Additionally the rigor and quality of most of the work being shown is mediocre at best. The Whitney biennial was so bad. The art world has become so politicized and one can’t even voice this in an observing kind of way without being branded intolerant. It’s very sad and I think this was an excellent conversation revealing some very real truths.
  • ree01239
    A delight
    Look forward to listening to each release. The ideas are deep, the talk is real, and the host is the bomb.
  • WalkingWithRosie
    Helen & Hal
    Deserves close-listening. So much to learn and enjoy. Bravo
  • Firefox❤️💖✨
    Amazing!!
    Best podcast ever!! I like it because it helps me understand things going on in the world! P.S. Ryan I talked to some butterfly’s a few days ago and they gave me a message for you: “we are coming for you!“
  • Dbvudl
    Please please change the host back to Lucas
    I’m wordless
  • realasrealis
    Can Helen Molesworth ever ask a direct question?
    I’ve seen Helen Molesworth interview or talk about art , sometimes i just say to myself ‘enuff with the preamble letting us all know how smart u are, will u please just ask a direct question!’...it gets tiresome. I think Luca does good job of interviewing.
  • nosy by nature
    Need more stars …
    Great discussions! Really look forward to the next season of programs ! Each episode has been first rate, engaging enough to listen to more than once (and enjoy engagement by taking notes!)
  • Easlekisser
    So good
    Helen Molesworth you are Awesome!
  • Lizzzzzzxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Was better before
    The new host is embarrassing.
  • Dill BeBasio
    Total Simp
    Way to gush over two really sus sketch satanists. Cannibalism, child p, and david z, gush gush gush. You all make great company.
  • katy si
    Jerry saltz is a canary in the coal mine?
    You lost me here. Jerry is a pervert and a philistine. He was awarded a Pulitzer by a man accused of sexual assault.
  • dnself
    Dissent ftw
    I appreciate you
  • Vanilla Sheet Cake
    Love this podcast!
    I’ve been looking for a podcast just like this. Good cadence and guests!
  • PDiPerna
    Excellent trio in Hilton Als, Angela Davis in honor of Toni Morrison
    Superb and enlightening dialogue about the legendary Toni Morrison and the importance of constant inquiry to illuminate racism across culture and generations. Nice rhythm topic to topic as well. Bravo.
  • Cantfigureoutnickname
    Waiting for new season
    Just found out this podcast and been fascinating with the viewpoints and stories given by these prominent artists. It is truly a pleasure to have a chance to listen to these conversations as an artworld outsider. The host asks interesting questions and knowing when to stop unlike other podcast hosts being kind of self centered sometimes. Host also have a great voice! Highly recommend, hope they will launch new season and keep on rolling it.
  • Cody road
    Earthbound
    Love how Lucas Zwirner is so open and compassionate and unpretentious. He really listens and has the best follow up questions. Great choice of guests too. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
  • Dobricki
    Great, honest back and forth between artists
    Wonderful convo. So many topics covered in one hour and an insightful look into (da da daaaa...) NFTs!
  • jlotis
    Unique
    The conversations between artists is unique and engaging, whether quotidian exchanges or more cerebral matters. Lucas such a skilled and sensitive interviewer. Let’s clone you.
  • Clement Hill
    Minimalism
    Very thoughtful and thorough discussion - thank you
  • ChristopherJG
    Enjoying these talks.
    Rich with fascinating viewpoints and details of the lives of these thinkers and artists. Many aspects of art and ways of finding valuable meanings in art come out in these conversations.
  • rickseymour
    Wonderful
    So heartfelt and free of artspeak
  • Daniel Sterno
    David Zwirner:Dialogues
    The entire series is so insightful, so well orchestrated with thought provoking dialogs in conversations.... Especially in this time of quarantine though would be equally received at any time. Thank you for what you guys do
  • superj155
    Great conversations!
    I’ve listened to 3 so far and all the conversations are so interesting and not basic. Great moderating too!
  • Darkened Space
    Transported to Venice by Cynthia Zarin
    I so enjoyed listening to Cynthia Zarin read from her upcoming book,Two Cities, in which she shares her longstanding relationships with Rome and Venice. My husband and I returned to Venice this past December to spend New Year's, just before Covid-19 stopped life there (and everywhere) in its tracks. We had not visited since the late ‘80’s, although we loved our time there very much and often wondered how it was that we hadn’t returned sooner. Being New Yorkers, we typically walk miles a day without noticing, and Ms. Zarin mentioned how she loves nothing better in Venice than to walk all day long. She brought back that wonderful feeling of walking in any direction there from breakfast till sunset, learning to welcome getting lost a number of times a day, when, for example, a map didn’t match a four-foot wide Venetian pathway we took, or led to a walled dead end the map showed going through. Ms. Zarin might agree that the discoveries found quite by accident walking this way made for some of the most memorable stories. She described her Venetian experiences so intimately that I was drawn back in memory to revisit moments I similarly cherished. Like breathing in, through the city's crisp, January air, fragrances of fresh bread baking in a pasticceria we walked passed, or spices emanating from open doors of a salumeria. Fewer tourists crowded the ambling, narrow, stone streets and wooden bridges when we were there, but street life bustled so vibrantly I couldn't imagine the overcrowding we heard about from shopkeepers, who complained to us about cruise ships coming and going in summer. As Ms. Zarin read to us about her journey using a water taxi, I recalled that quarter-mile jaunt at the port she spoke of, schlepping our bags down that odd, red runway to our own water taxi five months ago. That ride to a palazzo that friends had rented on the Grand Canal and to which, very last minute, they spontaneously invited us, was late at night, and entering onto that fabled waterway was like floating through the most incredible movie set ever built. Ms. Zarin called the Canal both beautiful and absurd. She’s exactly right. She also wrote that she would have been warmer in the taxi’s cabin, but felt the need to stay outside in bracing wind to see it all. Me too. Thank you, Ms. Zarin, for taking me back. I can’t wait to read Two Cities, and hope we’ll both, and all, return to Italy in person soon. A presto!
  • stay home-do art
    Mamma & Jockum
    Wonderful-a real conversation about working as an artist. No gobbledygook! Loved it!
  • trinkarav
    Jordan & Jeremy
    From someone who can’t get to nyc but quarterly this is amazing, but Jordan & Jeremy? priceless. So many threads to follow. Beyond grateful for this access- these dialogues. Bravo Lucas.
  • suz 93108
    Dialogues David Zwirner Podcast
    Vital & challenging—intellectual jousting at its most alive by great artist thinkers. This is so needed, so necessary NOW as sharp minds/smart voices are being bullied into silence. A gem.
  • eliz.edwards
    Love
    Makes my inner Art History nerd sing!! Really interesting and fun to listen to!
  • kristymazoo
    Kusama
    Can’t wait for the exhibition!
  • Judidee
    Excellent
    Just discovered podcast through an Kusuma email from the gallery. Very informative and an easy educational quick lesson. Love Lucas voice too, very relaxing.
  • paulvanbrenk
    Inspirational
    The November 6 was a great discussion on how social media can reach and inspire more people. Definitely going to listen to more episodes.
  • xoeloni
    Dialogues
    Insightful
  • justin_jakes
    Thought provoking
    If you’re an art lover or just beginning your interest in the art world, these podcasts provide invaluable insight directly from the minds of some of the most influential figures in the industry.
  • Beeebopp
    Interesting & Enjoyable
    I truly enjoyed listening to Marcel Dzama and Will Butler describing their respective histories, influences and processes. Very relaxed and good-humored conversation, keeping the emphasis where it belongs, on the creative evolution of these two gifted and inspired artists.
  • straus49
    A much needed podcast!
    This first installment has great promise of a much needed series where artists, critics and others passionate about our culture can engage in serious, thoughtful and — thanks to Lucas — highly literate discussions on a range of topics limited only by their imagination.
  • Luvneverdies
    Not Trailer Trash
    A little humor to begin the reviews? The audio introduction to the podcast itself seems to set up a dream scenario ahead. Being included in some of arts most desired conversations is what most of us value during any given studio visit or art fair... and the quality people who are promised to contribute will serve up some interesting viewpoints. Thanks DZ and team. Looking forward to it! Mary
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